A Very Special Episode: SATT Live!

[00:00:00] Astonishing Legends Network Disclaimer, this episode includes the usual amount of adult language and graphic discussions you've come to expect around here. But in the event it becomes an unusual amount, expect another call from me. Alright, we're in. Welcome back everybody. Welcome to the show. This week we're doing something a little bit different than we have in the past. This has been, Jesus Christ, what a 2025.

[00:00:27] It's like non-stop from the fires and then now I have my kid who's wonderful and we love, but throwing a little bit of a wrench in the podcast researching, writing and recording plans. So this week we have our first ever from, Ed, what is this, May 2024? Yeah, I think this was May 2024 when we did our first like premium live stream.

[00:00:51] This is a premium live stream that is, we are putting out as an episode for your listening pleasure. Straight from the archives. First time heard anywhere for free. And you're gonna hear it and be like, this should have been for free. I can't believe someone paid for this. No, no, no. It's the very first one. It was the very first one. We've gotten way better. I think, if I may pat us on the back, the charm is there. Yeah. The material is there. We're just a little...

[00:01:19] The only thing that's also there are all like the technical errors and fuck ups and flub ups that we've since like ironed out in a big way. But yeah, you're gonna hear microphone stuff. You're gonna hear internet connection issues. But that's, yeah, again, part of the charm. You know what else they're gonna hear? Our theme song. Oh shit. People have never heard the theme song outside of Patreon before. The scared all time live stream theme. Yeah, it's a banger. You're gonna love it. It's gonna become meme fodder for all of you, I think.

[00:01:48] And don't think that just because we're putting out one live episode that you could just not sign up for the Patreon and hear all these live episodes. It's not happening. Well, especially since now it's really morphed in a big way into like a hangout. Yeah. There's a lot of hangout in this episode, but there's a lot more of a hangout vibe these days. We've got drink check. We've got all these little things we do with a lot of audience participation and check-ins these days, which you'll hear a little bit of at the beginning of this old episode.

[00:02:17] But we've really kind of honed that in and have a little bit more kind of, I guess, a scared all time bingo card of sorts that we're hitting more. So if you like what you hear for this live episode, sign up for the Patreon. You'll get one of these live episodes a month. You'll be able to come join us, chat with us, talk to us, hang out with us. They're so much fun. We love doing them. I think I'm supposed to announce a date for the next one right now, but I don't know that we next Thursday. It could be. I mean, we're gonna we'll post. We'll post it.

[00:02:46] We'll post it'll be coming up next week because it's the end of the month. So it's that time. The other thing we wanted to announce is that we are now and this has been long planned. But now that Felix is here, we are switching from our 10 weeks on a month off roughly pattern of releasing these episodes to releasing an episode every other week.

[00:03:11] No months off. So you'll still be getting roughly the same amount, if not maybe one or two more episodes of the show every year for free. They're just going to be a little bit more spread out to make sure that Ed and I have enough time, especially working around baby stuff to be researching and writing and recording the episodes and getting them out so that they're on a regular release pattern for you guys, for the advertisers.

[00:03:39] And for honestly, for for for not running out of episodes, because we did forty six episodes in our first year or something. And like there's a lot of fears out there. But we want this show to go on for a long time and doing fifty episodes a year of back. Well, I just said you're going to get the same amount. So we're still going to run out of fears. It doesn't matter. It's going to be great. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it feels like loss. But it's actually a gain for you guys. It's a gain for all of us. So, yeah, that was a long time coming.

[00:04:08] But that said, very constrained for time with the baby being brand fucking new. So this week we've decided, like we said, to pull something from the archives, give it to you guys, see if you're into it. But also, more importantly, less work for me this week. Less work for Chris this week. And so, you know, let us know. Yeah. And genuinely, if you like it, sign up for Patreon. That's how we'll know you like it. Yeah. Yeah. And if you don't, we keep that to your fucking self because, you know, people who do like it like it and they don't want to hear, you know, your naysaying.

[00:04:38] Yeah. And we don't actually do audio only versions of this normally. So there are chapters in the episode description. So at any point you're like, oh, these guys are just talking to the audience. I want to hear a story. I want to blah, blah, blah. You can find all that in the chapters. Just jump to story one, story two, story three. The full video will be available as well. And that video will have corresponding chapters to the audio only version. Just so you have that option in case you're like, what the fuck are they talking about or looking at? Sure.

[00:05:08] I did try it. But the first episode actually has less than other episodes of moments that are truly like visuals important. Yeah. Well, we've gotten a lot better at bringing up visuals during the show and showing it to the people who are on stream. So there's more to be missed in later episodes if you were just hearing the show. Exactly. This first one. We didn't do a lot.

[00:05:28] And this is also a good look behind the curtain of what the show sounds like before you get it with all the ahs and ums and weird pauses and me going to the bathroom and fucking Chris doing whatever the fuck he does. So, you know, if nothing else, this is a good thing to listen to so you can really appreciate what I do. Yeah. So anyway, that's everything I've got to say. Chris, do you have anything before we get into this? Before I play young baby versions of us? I do have it is it's going to be like Muppet babies version of us.

[00:05:58] Our voices are so much higher. No, I have one timely piece of news that I did want to call everyone's attention to just because the world's in rough shape right now. So one thing we definitely want to see is that two days ago, by the time you're listening to this, a rare doomsday fish from the deep sea washed ashore in Mexico. It's an oarfish, which is a very cool looking big white sea serpent kind of fish.

[00:06:24] And according to Mexican folklore, it can be a harbinger of doom. And the guy who recorded this happening on video saw the fish coming to shore. And according to the Washington Post, he recalled that the fish seemed confused. And so was he. What are you doing? Hayes said aloud as he filmed a fisherman nearby says he's come up here to die. And then they try to put it back in the water.

[00:06:53] But it did a big loop and came back on the shore. The fisherman figured that the fish was disoriented or distressed. So he collected it and announced he was taking it to a marine biologist, which I highly doubt. I think he probably. We're eating doomsday tonight, baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Doomsday taco on the beach is what a great way to go out. There's also in terms of weird fish dying. I don't know. Ed, did you see the angler fish?

[00:07:21] The demon black angler fish? Yeah, I saw it was dirt. It was like during the daylight or something. It looked pretty well lit. I don't know if. Yeah. Well, they're usually very, very, very deep sea fish. Yeah. And this one was dying. And so it floated up to the surface. And the photo of it, I think is like the only photo of it in existence, maybe, because usually it's too dark. But it's one of the very few and it's nearer the surface. So there's a lot of light coming through the water. Shit, man. A lot of fish are trying to get out of there. Yeah. What's going on in the ocean?

[00:07:51] I don't know. How many minutes to midnight are they down there? Yeah. Sebastian moved his shell clock. Marine minutes to midnight, which is, yeah, I think that was a cut song from Little Mermaid. All right, guys. Well, with that, enjoy this look at us live. Enjoy the theme song. It's a moral gray area, but a lot of people like it. We'll talk more about that in the episode itself.

[00:08:18] Hey, look, it's Chris and Ed like you've never seen them. Before now, you may have never seen them. Can you believe you're actually seeing them? What time is it? It's time to start the show. So grab a beer if you're able. Because these guys are actually here. This isn't a podcast. It's actually happening.

[00:08:48] It's scary. I think it happened. We're the only thing to be afraid of is if it's not as good as the well produced. This week we show you come to know and love. But hey, let's find out together. I'm the star. The show.

[00:09:18] Hello. Hello. We're live. It turns out that was the next hour to hour and a half won't be as good as that. And no together today. And that is I'm. It's the only approved use of AI that I would approve is it being unable to pronounce live and just saying live. No. Yeah. As you guys know, we're anti anti AI and all that bullshit. I do think the sound generator is insane.

[00:09:48] That's I mean, I think I sent it to test. I sent it to test earlier and and she was like, who who is singing that? And I'm like, yeah, no, it's I got so confused. I get so scared. I mean, not scared, but I mean, when people send me shit like that, I'm always like, wait, you know somebody in a band like it's just the song generator was so good on day one. And now that we can add our own lyrics, it's it's just like, I don't know, man, we all got to anybody have jobs for us. We're all we're moving on this industry.

[00:10:18] This this won't surprise anyone, but the first song I generated was a pop punk song in the style of Blink 182 about capturing and riding the Loch Ness Monster. And it was great. I was I was horrified, but I listened to it for like a week. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It was funny. No, it's it's really good. Yeah. Hold on. We have a jobs. India Potter says we can come work in Indiana. Indiana. So I'm on my way.

[00:10:47] I'm going on a road trip anyway. Yeah, that's a good question. I should have asked doing what? Oh, Cassie says it was oddly American. It's the only only way I know to do it. Okay. Higher Ed. That's good. Oh, higher education. I thought they were saying I heard you say higher Ed. I'm like, I think she already. You don't need to give a hard sell for me, but also do higher Ed. Yeah, that's a fun. That was a fun pun. I can probably get a job doing higher education. I have a bunch of years. I worked on Emmy winning television shows. Oh, nice.

[00:11:17] That's pretty cool. India. I do multimedia for online school at BSU. Hell yeah. So let me see what I got here. I sometimes feel like a teacher, a higher Ed teacher with all the research that I end up doing for this podcast. It's like writing lesson plans about the least important things in the world. Or your worst student. You have to make them like really dumbed down. So welcome everybody.

[00:11:47] We're going to, I think we're going to end up chatting for just a few minutes before we start some of the stuff that we research and prepare just to give people time to file in, in the future as word spreads and more and more people listen and show up on when they're supposed to on time and stuff. We'll get started more promptly, but. Might as well take time to say hi, Samantha. Cardamon? Cardamon? Yes.

[00:12:16] Samantha, I feel like you've been ride or die from pretty early. I want to say you were in maybe the first like hundred Facebook follows maybe. Yeah. Because the last name sounds like Cardamom. So it's stuck in my head when I see it. Sure. Yeah. And I think I just definitely sent something in the mail to you the other day. So it's good to see the name again. It's good to see the name popping up. It's old school. Oh yeah.

[00:12:42] Astonishing legends gives a vote of approval here as you can see. So yeah. Well, let's do this. Who, whoever else is, uh, who has access to the internet? To the chat that's watching. Uh, give us, give us a wave so we can see who's here. We can say hello. Um, and don't feel. And also we'll try and fill the air. I think we're going to also be releasing these, uh, as audio only. Maybe some people like that kind of stuff.

[00:13:12] So we're trying to do too much dead air. Um, also let us know if Chris's mic sounds like shit. Hello. Hey. All right. We got some cool people here. We got Savannah Bowman. Hello. Hello. We've got hello. Casey Lee or, or a cle 98. Cassie also not known as Cassidy's here. Got the Higgs, Lauren Higgins. Nice. Got sky sip. It's a very fun name. Sky skip.

[00:13:41] Oh, sky skip. Okay. Different entirely. Skywalker, but sup Lauren. I think Lauren also. Oh my gosh. I actually, I have a Lauren's packages in this office with me right now. I'm not going to show it in camera. It has her address, but I literally do right now. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it's, it's, it hasn't gone out yet, but it's, it's right on. It's on the desk next to me, literally Lauren's. So just know it's not, it's probably not going to get there before the holiday. Oh shit. Zelda.

[00:14:11] What's up, Zelda. That's another name I remember from the packages. Yep. Yep. Um, Cassie's asking if we're getting frog content tonight. Uh, I think frog content probably will be, uh, you won't hear them in the background. Uh, Ed would not allow me to broadcast from somewhere that you could hear the frogs. Hence why I'm in front of the Amityville house. Uh, but we will part of the fun of these live shows and the AMA. I don't know if you guys, I don't know if any of you have asked AMA questions yet, but part

[00:14:41] of the fun of AMA and the live show is like, as we do this more and we start to get a hang of it, uh, we'll start theming these a little bit. So I would not be surprised if in the not too distant future, we have a very frog heavy live episode where we talk about frogs. I can talk about my favorite species. I can talk about the different kinds of frogs that I've owned. Um, the frogs I'd like to own the terrariums I've designed for them in my head already. Um, yeah.

[00:15:10] So yeah, speaking of, uh, design, uh, designed pieces of material, I don't know what I'm saying, but Jen, Hey Jen, uh, our buddy Jen's here and she says that she's also anti AI, which is a great stance to take. Uh, but she likes the theme says it slaps. So it does slap. I would never have used it. I would never have gone back on my, like such staunch. Anti AI stance. Unless it was like, this is so good. I have to use it. The only thing that bums me out about it. Also. Hello, Scott. Scott Philbrook is here. We have a bit of a celebrity in the house.

[00:15:40] Ooh, he's using a purple wave hand. Um, he's listened to our episodes, but I don't, it makes me nervous to podcast live in front of the, uh, the world's greatest live podcaster. Scott Philbrook. Yeah. It's going to be, we have a lot to show. Oh yeah. We're going to be doing a live show with him. So this is like a trial run. Um, anyone who's going to monster fest. We'll definitely see us with Scott and forest, uh, doing something. We don't know yet. It'll be the first time.

[00:16:08] Well, I guess we got on the, um, the holiday thing with them together, but other than that, it's going to be the first time we've ever like podcasted with them. Um, Oh, India is going to be at monster fest. So we'll see you there. Um, one of my, one of the all time. Great. Well, not great. Remember that guy who, uh, gave us a review that was like, Ed sucks. Cause he interrupts Chris all the time or whatever. Yeah. Well, there's a, one of our, hold on. Just to the, one of our very few bad reviews.

[00:16:37] Uh, this guy is mad that Ed interrupts me, which is what you people are paying for is for the interruptions. Let's be real. And, uh, uh, but he refused to even say Ed's name. And at the end he said, I might even know his name if he didn't interrupt so much. So yeah, no, he, I mean, that's not why I was bringing it up. And that was, that's not, we don't need a dramatic reading of the guys, uh, review, but it's funny. Is that like, he's, he's just like, man, this guy's a bummer.

[00:17:05] But then he mentions, the reason I bring it up is he mentions the Christmas episode astonishing legends, Christmas episode. And he was like, you know, which is weird. Cause I actually thought Ed was great on the Christmas show. He didn't say my name, but he was like, Oh, I actually thought that guy was great on the Sasha legends Christmas show. So he's not like the worst all the time. And I'm like, Oh, thanks. Um, crazy. But yeah, it's, it's, uh, but that's, that's, you know, so far we've been pretty fortunate with a lot of really good reviews though.

[00:17:36] And, uh, oh, this is a trial run though. So hopefully we don't, nobody thinks this is what the show's going to be like. Your mic sounds insane. I just realized that I have the, it's nearly time to start background still on. So let's adjust to that too. It's fully been started. There you go. Looks good. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Well, I think, I think we've given the people some time to, to shuffle in.

[00:18:01] Um, so we can dive into, uh, some of what we've got to talk about today. So we're, Oh yeah. Hold on. We should mention by the way, in case, cause it sounds like in case people don't know, I'm sorry to interrupt is that tests, I think is saying that she's the person behind the people on the mics. And in case people don't know, I can't imagine if you're here this early in our live shows, you don't know who test FIFL is, but, um, you know, she's producer extraordinaire, Sasha legends, long time researcher.

[00:18:30] And then I think probably holds a couple other titles there. Uh, well, if anyone wants, we'll bring her in later in the show. It's fine. Um, this episode I'm saying, but we'll definitely have her come on some live shows, but she's the best. So if you don't know her, she's great. Truly. Um, thank you, Tess. Um, so yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna do our first live episode kind of, um, uh, aping astonishing legends as we have done from day one and do some news stories that are very

[00:19:00] a little weird. And I think related to, um, topics we've covered on the show that I think are, are interesting to talk about. So what we're going to do is pull one of these up. So the first one that I found that, that, uh, struck me as something that would be fun to talk about on the show is you guys may remember from our Alaska slash what was the abandoned towns episode? Abandoned towns. Abandoned towns.

[00:19:28] Uh, one of, one of our early experiments in podcasting, I, we actually released that episode way after we recorded it. Yeah. Should we reveal that here? Exclusive. Exclusive. We almost didn't release that episode because it was the second we recorded and we had no idea. We had no idea what was like a good episode or a bad episode. And I remember we finished and just the air in the room was like, Ed and I were both like, how? Yeah, we were disappointed. We were like, we, we fucked up.

[00:19:58] Like we should not have made a podcast. And then Ed was cutting it later. And he was like, I think it's actually good. And now it's one of our favorite episodes. So it has become one of my favorite episodes. Samantha says it's her favorite episode. Um, I guess I'll just assume Samantha's a woman. Hello. Uh, it could be a little Sam, the guy, I don't know either way. Thank you for Samantha. It's also one of our favorite episodes. I, that episode makes me laugh a ton.

[00:20:23] And it's just so funny that like you said, we were, we were so disappointed when we recorded it and it was like, maybe we need more. We just need more or better. We actually have, there's a bunch of bonus content from that episode. We have two more pretty big stories and an interview that never came out from that episode. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. So people will get that at some point. Eventually. Yeah.

[00:20:47] Um, but the reason this, um, article reminded me of that episode is because you may remember a discussion in that episode of the non-tignook or the galooka goo as Ed called it, which was a, a Sasquatch type creature that was loose in the woods, uh, smashing people to pieces. And I, and I noticed this article because this was sort of, um, another person who had

[00:21:14] been found smashed to pieces in the woods, but the culprit was not the non-tignook. It was not a Sasquatch or criminals. In this case, it was a moose, which killed this guy in Alaska when he was attempting to take photos of her newborn calves. Um, so this guy also was very old. He was a 70 year old man. I'll, I'll read from the article here. It's not very old anymore. That's true.

[00:21:40] Um, but old and old enough that, you know, if you have this happen to you, you're, you're not going to recover in the hospital. Oh yeah. Okay. A 70 year old Alaska man who was attempting to take photos of two newborn moose calves was attacked and killed by their mother authorities said on Monday, and this was posted May 20th. So just the other day, the man killed Sunday was identified as Dale Shorman of Homer, uh, said Austin McDaniel, a spokesperson for Alaska department of public safety.

[00:22:08] The female moose had recently given birth to her calves in Homer, uh, which I guess is Homer, Homer, Alaska is the place where it's happening. Um, as was that one of the places you went, Ed, were you in Homer, Alaska? I was never in Homer, but there's a, I don't even, I want to say a singer songwriter. I wish he was more famous named, uh, Ellis Paul, who is just awesome, but he has a great song about Homer, Alaska. So that's why I think of it. Shout out to Ellis. Well, hell yeah.

[00:22:38] We should get Ellis on the show, dude. We should, Ellis, uh, need should learn if he hasn't already that, uh, you do not want to approach a moose immediately after it's given birth to try to take pictures of its young. Um, because that is what, uh, Dale Shorman did. And that is when the cow moose attacked Dale said the department of public safety, the attack happened as Dale and his friend were running away.

[00:23:04] The second man was uninjured and he did not witness the tap, the attack. So, and this is the part that reminded me of the galooka goo authorities cannot say if the moose killed Shorman by kicking or stomping him or a combination. So, so I mean, you want to get it right on the forms. So yeah. And it makes me think that whatever they found of this guy was, uh, in pretty bad shape.

[00:23:29] If, if either kicking or stomping via moose occurred, um, and they couldn't tell which it was, but they pronounced some dead at the scene. The cow moose left the area. And, um, I don't think they've killed the moose or anything, which is awesome. There's another story in here, uh, in this article in 1995, a moose stomped a 71 year old man to death when he was trying to enter a building on the campus of university of Alaska Anchorage.

[00:23:59] Did he work there? Did the moose work there as like security? That's the image I get is that like, he went to try to go open the door and the moose came out of the building. Um, which is going to happen. Got you. Witnesses said students had been throwing. This is terrible. Witnesses said students have been throwing snowballs and harassing the moose in its calf for hours. And the animals were agitated when the man tried to walk past them.

[00:24:26] So, well, yeah, ours is it because the moose was like in the building and so they couldn't leave. I don't know. How come the moose just sat there and took it for hours? I don't know. I think it was outside the building. I don't think the moose was in the building. Oh my God. We got a moose in here. Let's throw snow at it. Like it's a ridiculous, but Alaska, nothing going on up there. Is this Alaska as well? Uh, yeah, this is on the campus of University of Alaska Anchorage. Yeah, there's nothing going on up there.

[00:24:55] So maybe they maybe they did like trap a moose and throw snow at it. I don't know. Terrible. Um, people should not spook moose or get between a mother and her calves. Said the department. These moose will become unpredictable and work to protect their calves at any cost. So all this to say there are things that can tear you apart in the woods of Alaska that are much less dangerous seeming than a galookagoo or a nautinuk.

[00:25:22] Um, moose are seemingly pretty fucking rough in and of themselves. So, and they're also huge, man. I saw a few when I was up there. They're really big. They're really, really big. Yeah. I don't know that I've ever seen one. I've definitely never seen one like in the wild, the way you did. I'm trying to think I've ever even seen one at a zoo or anything and how big they are. I've seen videos and they're like walking down along highways and they're like, their legs are almost as tall as the car. No, they're really big. Yeah.

[00:25:51] They're just, I was really shocked by that. Cause I've only any kind of like horned four legged mammalish creature I ever see is like deer. You know what I mean? So I was like, Oh, moose are probably like somewhere between deer and a cow. No, they were not. They were like, no deer and a mini man. They're like ice age style animals. Oh, they have. Yeah. When you see one, you're like, that doesn't even seem like it should be here anymore. I'm glad they're definitely big enough where.

[00:26:20] Or someone would be like, I don't know if they stepped on you or pushed you like all, all, all moose touches could be fatal. So, you know, it's hard to tell. Yeah. So stay. I mean, I don't even walk too close to a horse because I'm so scared that a horse will just unprovoked kick and clock me in the head. And that's it. I don't know. I don't know. They seem they've been around a while horses. If they're like somewhere where you would be, I think they're probably comfortable with people.

[00:26:51] Yeah, probably. Oh, no, I don't even know where you find wild horses. I'm not talking about wild horses. I'm just saying, well, I mean, the actions, I feel like you'd have to find a wild horse to have that happen. And I'm just saying that just realizing right now, like, I don't even know where they where are wild horses. Are there any undomesticated horses? Let us know in the chat. Wild horses. Yeah. That's Neil Young, right? Yeah. I don't think it is. No, I don't think. Well, this is a beautiful thing.

[00:27:19] We can actually look up stuff during the live show because the cracks are starting to show. Chris doesn't know his references. Oh, no, he has. Well, it's unclear. There is. He does have a song, presumably. It's called Wild Horses. But it's it's doesn't. But I feel like I only know the Rolling Stones kind of version, but they could all be the same song. Right. You know how that goes?

[00:27:46] Like they could all be written by a guy named like Scoot Badoot or whatever. And they bought them all. You know what I mean? It was a different time. There was like music publishing rights and stuff that it would be like, hey, if eight people want to do your song. Yeah. Well, not that's not happening now. And now I wrote Wild Horses. Yeah. So we were going to ask Neil Young to do our theme, but we were like, fuck that. We've got access to the finest songwriting technology.

[00:28:16] Okay. A couple of quick things we got from the chat here. Apparently, Don Draper's dad died from a this might be a spoiler. Died from a dramatic horse kick to the head. So I guess you're not out of line with that comment. We got to recommend Mary Roach's Animal Vegetable Criminal. When Nature Breaks the Law. Oh, it's a book. Okay. We got a book recommendation called, I think, Animal Vegetable Criminal, which I guess is like a 20 questions play on words.

[00:28:45] When Nature Breaks the Law. So nature doesn't. It's so many things happening in that title. Because there's a law of nature, but then there's a law of man. There's a little something for everyone in that title. Yeah. Thank you for that. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, my God. There's so many places that you can get see wild horses. Shackelford Banks, Chincoteague. There's two places. Okay. Three places. Salt River in Arizona.

[00:29:14] Scott, since you're on this, is there a way to fix whatever's happening to Chris's mic? Do you hear what I'm hearing? This is a question specifically for one guest, Scott Vilbrook. This is the first. It's the first live show. I feel like we could be pretty fast and loose and do some tech work as well. Just let me know in the comments. So what's the next? Oh, he says it sounds fine. So he wrote it sounds fine. Question mark.

[00:29:39] Yeah, I think you're just I think we're going out over the 56k modems of the world. Oh, good. Good, good, good, good, good. I'll see if we could set up an AOL away message for when we leave this. No, I think I'm just saying by the time it gets to the other side, I mean, I'm not sure that it, you know. Okay, good. Yeah. What a weird thing. We're just learning a lot about live shows right now. And I'm glad that we have like our most our 14 most hardcore fans who will put up with it. Absolutely.

[00:30:07] Guys, this is going to be a moment that gets talked about in the future. The time we got on the first live show. Okay, so the next article I wanted to talk about is sort of related to eaten alive, because as we all know, I think about being eaten alive too much. And that episode, we've really talked a lot about how vicious wild animals are. And that's true.

[00:30:36] But I also, you know, sometimes my heart is warmed by stories of animals that are shown a bunch of love from a human. And they develop some degree of trust and safety or whatever version of love is kicking around in an animal's head. And so this story kind of leapt out to me. I guess it's the opposite of eaten alive. But this is also it's not just a public interest story. It's sort of an ask to help solve a crime.

[00:31:06] So the article was posted, published on NPR on the beginning of the month, May 3rd. And the headline is, have you seen this emotional support gator? Wally's owner says he's lost in Georgia. In ordinary times, the social media accounts devoted to Wally Gator document the nearly six foot long emotional support alligators adventures around Pennsylvania.

[00:31:30] Visiting nursing homes, which sounds like it could go so bad so fast. But OK, wait, you know, question, because the way you said it, the inflection in your voice, you did you start a sentence or end a sentence with visiting nursing homes? Which is this question. The reason I ask is because I don't know if the if the I almost a dinosaur, but it's not wrong. If the does the crocodile visit nursing homes or do nursing homes go on field trips to it?

[00:32:00] That's what I was like. Visiting nursing homes want to know more about. I feel like I feel like bringing the nursing home to the alligator is like bringing an unsuspecting victim into like a serial killers basement. You're just like asking for trouble at that point. I hope they bring Wally to the nursing home. He's out of his element. He's less likely to drag an old man into a swamp at a nursing home. So and no, but I wasn't. That's not the end of the sentence.

[00:32:28] That's just a very funny item to start this list with. Yeah. So while he's been on adventures around Pennsylvania, visiting nursing homes, splashing around in Philadelphia's Love Park fountain, meeting with the mayor and smiling contentedly in his in his red harness as various admirers hug and hold him. This is a this is a kept gator.

[00:32:54] This is a kept gator with an owner who is asking to be sued. I feel like. No, it's true. I didn't think about that. But you can't like you can't just bring an alligator around the town and let people hug him. I don't know. There is that if he has the paperwork. I mean, can anyone get away? Because there was a dog that barked the whole like fucking time on this plane on this flight. I was on, you know, last year or whatever. But it was someone support dog.

[00:33:22] And so, like, are we allowed to do anything or say anything then? Because it's like, well, no, they need it. We all need to be in a worse off mood because they need to be in a better mood. Dude, here's the better question. Is your emotional support alligator allowed to eat someone else's emotional support dog? Oh, shoot. Yeah. I mean, that would be that's a vibe. It's like rock, paper, scissors. You just you're not going to win that. Like it's it's a too big to argue with something. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:33:51] Um, so anyway, this guy, I guess, lets strangers hold his crocodile in recent days. However, they being Wally and his Wally's owners have been overtaken with pleas for help. Wally is missing in Georgia where his owner, Joey, Joey, J-O-I-E Henny. Chris, you see this? No. Oh, you're not looking at the screen you were reading. Oh, yeah. Wait, which one am I looking at?

[00:34:18] Samantha says, I live in Philly suburbs and Wally is the least crazy thing here in Philly, which makes which makes sense. That place is known for like sports fans throwing batteries at each other and shit. So I yeah, I was just talking to someone who's actually my buddy's a cinematographer and he's shooting an HBO show in and around Philly. And he's he told me some some crazy stories from being there for like four weeks.

[00:34:42] So but so anyway, Joey, Joey Henny says that Wally Gator was kidnapped in Georgia, recovered and released into a swamp. Henny and Wally were visiting friends in Brunswick when someone took the gator from his pen in the early morning hours of April 21st. The Wally Gator Facebook page posted on Saturday. Here's here's a quote.

[00:35:09] Wally was stolen by some jerk who likes to drop alligators off into someone's yard to terrorize them. Wait, wait a second. I'm so confused. So Wally was stolen from his his owner by by someone whose whose reputation precedes them as someone who likes to use alligators as like a prank. I which so he's added he's adding to his prank arsenal of alligators.

[00:35:38] Yeah, this is such a specific thing. I wonder if Joey Henny has done this in the past because that's a real like, you know, it's easy to reach for a while he was stolen by some jerk who wanted to sell him to be turned into an alligator purse or something. But some jerk who likes to drop alligators off in someone's yard to terrorize them is a very specific. It's so specific. It seemed the writer had that happen and have beef.

[00:36:09] Shit, man. Yeah. Well, OK, wait. So the rest of this starts to make a little bit more sense. Thanks. I was going to say above it says that while he was kidnapped and released into a swamp and then it's then now he's saying he was dropped off in someone's yard.

[00:36:22] And then this next part, though, says once discovered, the neighbors called Department of Natural Resources and then the Department of Natural Resources called a trapper who came and got Wally and dropped him off in a swamp with about 20 other alligators on that same day. So they're just moving alligators in bulk. I mean, around Florida or Georgia or whatever. Wally's life sounds pretty shit. Like he's just like, all right, where am I going?

[00:36:53] All right. Yard. All right. Oh, where am I going? Going back to a swamp? OK. Hey, where are we going to an old person's home? All right. It's either the chillest alligator in the world or it's just like a dim, dimwitted alligator who's lost. Well, as a spokesperson for the Georgia Department of Resources told NPR that the permitted trapper who had captured Wally had responded to a, quote, nuisance alligator call and later released it in a remote location.

[00:37:21] So there's enough gators in this area that they have a term for the nuisance alligator call. Sure. Don't love that. That's too many. This is Florida? Georgia. Gosh. Well, that's right there. It's on the border. But they could have come from Florida. Yeah. But then so here's the thing.

[00:37:42] The Wally Gator Facebook page did not specify the location of the swamp that they suspect Wally was released in, but urged people to get in touch with Wally's owner to aid in the search and pray because we need a miracle. Quote, especially given the presence of the other alligators. Oh, they don't think Wally can handle himself. Yeah. Wally was a domesticated alligator. He's not used to he's going into gen pop now, dude. He wants hugs.

[00:38:11] He wants hugs from the lady outside the liquor store. He does. He doesn't know how to fight another alligator. So he was raised in captivity. Wally, I guess if they're saying that, then he's he's not a hard alligator. Wally is no longer with us. What we're saying. Wally, Wally had to join a gang against his will. And now we don't know what he's doing. Yeah. Yeah, this is May 3rd. So I think Wally. Well, hold on. Let me see. Let me check.

[00:38:41] I didn't Wally. Oh, you don't have alerts on your phone for Wally? Whereabouts? You don't get Wally updates? Wally Gator update. OK, we're going to Facebook. Facebook dot com backslash the Wally Gator. Sure. All right. The top post is OK. Oh, hell yes, man. I thought R.I.P. God bless. R.I.P. God bless. So the top May 22nd.

[00:39:10] Hello, everyone. And I have no more context for this than anybody listening. So I'm just going to read this. Hello, everyone. I know everybody is curious about Joey's meeting on Tuesday. All I can say is it went very well. I know everyone wants details. However, I can no longer provide that information. So it does sound like Wally joined a gang. And they're like the cops are involved.

[00:39:35] As I am sure many of you are aware, there is a group of people who have made it their mission to prevent us from rescuing Wally by any means. We've been called scammers. This is simply a money grab amongst other things. This group of people find it to be a game to constantly report the GoFundMe account as a scam, freezing all money transfers and many other things I won't mention. I will no longer provide detailed information to give them any additional opportunity to block any headway that we make.

[00:40:02] While I am upset, as I'm sure many of you are, that those who actually who actually care about Wally's safety and recovery will not have daily detailed knowledge of what we are doing. I really hope you can understand that we are doing what we feel is best for Wally's rescue. Please know that we are moving forward and will continue to do everything we can to hashtag bring Wally home. Wow. So, wow, this this is a movie. I mean, not one that I would watch, but this is a movie. You know what I mean?

[00:40:31] This is like John Wick, but with an alligator in the swamp. It's just crazy that they're like you don't see you don't see the good people we are for the good people we are. You just think that we're taking all this GoFundMe money. I don't know what you do with that money. Like you keep losing Wally. Sounds like I wouldn't trust you either with with my cash. Like what do they need that money for to get Wally? Put a tracker on him. Put a tag in his ear if you're so worried about him.

[00:40:58] All I know is that they have 96 comments on this post and 644 reactions. So, holy shit. If we could be half as popular as the Wally Gator page. We'll never be at the Wally level. Probably not. Wait, where the fuck is Wally? So, the phone number listed on the Wally Gator page is a 717 number, which is Central Pennsylvania. I thought they were in. Oh, oh, right. No, they were vacationing in Georgia, but they live in Central Pennsylvania. That's right. Oh, my gosh.

[00:41:28] But Wally's in and around Georgia and Florida, right? Like Wally's whereabouts are very likely in Georgia. So, these are people. And I only asked that question because I thought you would answer faster. Honestly, it's weird. It's like if you get on a plane and go home from Disney World and then you're like, you know, I can't get this one person I met out of my mind at Disney World or this one support dog.

[00:41:55] And it's like, I know we're sitting in Pennsylvania and it doesn't matter to us. It's not in our backyard. But, like, we need to make a GoFundMe and, like, find this fucking alligator. Like, what connection did you have with Wally in your short amount of time that you are now multiple states away still thinking about him? Still trying to, like, get out.

[00:42:15] As of Friday, nearly 400 people had donated more than $10,000 to an online fundraiser supporting travel costs, advising costs, and possible legal and veterinary costs. So, a lot of you wouldn't have to do that if Wally just had some supporters down the road. I got to get you a business class ticket to go see Wally because you happen to live in central Pennsylvania. It's weird. It does come across as weird.

[00:42:42] Listen, if you're famous on the internet, you're famous all over the world, man. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Okay, I'm being told that in England or, I guess, the UK, Where's Waldo is called Where's Wally? Oh. Yeah, that's news to me. I smell a children's book. I think it is a children's book. They are called Where's Wally. I think they just maybe translate it as Where's Wally. But in America, could I publish a book called Where's Wally and it's just a hidden alligator on every page?

[00:43:10] I mean, they're going to come for you with that GoFundMe money. That's definitely towards legal fees instead. They are. Oh, shit. Oh, my God. Okay, so get this. Wally, I'm sorry. I should not have besmirched Wally's good name. He was the visual reference for Alligator Loki in the Disney Plus show Loki. Wow. You mean the one that just looked like every alligator I've ever seen? Yeah, apparently that was Wally. That's ridiculous.

[00:43:39] You could just tell the newspaper that. Exactly, dude. No, it's an alligator. It's like, you know how many mice are walking around those little mazes being like, you know, Stuart Little's based on me. Tons, I bet. Oh, Tess is asking. Oh, sorry. Was this a Tiger King situation? I don't think so. I think this is more of a guy who owns one crocodile or sorry, alligator.

[00:44:09] And lost it. And lost it. So, I mean. Not even good at owning it. It's a Tiger King situation in that. Yeah, this guy isn't good at owning the thing that he owns. But I don't think it was bigger than that. All right. So, we got through Wally. That's a Wally update, everybody. Wally. Wally. Actually, you know what I can do? I haven't done it in a while. Let me see here. While you figure that out, I'm going to do. Look at this. Look at this fun thing.

[00:44:38] It's going to come up on the screen. Boom. Wally update. Ba-ding. Got that out too late. Oh, my God. I have so many, like, Assange and Legends on here. I use Bozo Alert a lot. People who are just listening to this, when I finally get an audio-only version up, I'm playing with buttons and things are coming up on the screen. Who do you use the Bozo Alert for? Scott and Forrest. There you go.

[00:45:06] We need a Bozo Alert sign for the live pod, too. Like Bugs Bunny style signs we can hold up. Yeah, dude. Oh, look at it. We're getting a lot of heat from Assange and Legends. Forgot you're here. What's up? I knew you were here, Scott. I knew you were here. Joking around. So, yeah. So, that was one article. All right. We've got more. We've got more. I don't know. I'm just... I don't know why. Look, the people... I don't know what they want.

[00:45:36] So, if they want to just hang out with us, that works, too. Because I haven't drank booze in a while. Because of Square updates. You know what I mean? Because I don't fucking drink calories anymore. Let's take a pause, Ed. Let's talk Square updates. Square update. We gave a little bit away. I'm doing great. I think I said a little bit in our last update that, you know, the one we did for our season three dates thing. Yeah, plateaued. Plateaued. It's fine. I was at the gym today.

[00:46:06] I don't know if it's like proper plateau. I mean, or like just gaining more muscle or something. But getting square rules. And I decided today was the day to celebrate. I can have some booze, drink some beers. And I'm doing it because we're live. It's fun. It's great. Yeah, that's awesome. I mean, I think you've taken... I know you've taken the calorie counting more seriously than I have. You know, I'm like roughly counting.

[00:46:37] But it's just like I'm not eating sweets. That kind of thing. I'm still drinking beer. See, that's what sucks. Like I was never like... I'm not a huge drinker, as you know. And I'm definitely not like a big sweets person. So people would be like, hey, you want to lose weight? Stop drinking beers and stop eating candy. I'm like, I'm already not doing that. This is a body that's savory foods, mate. Like this is not... But no, so we got a question of what we're doing. So I think, Chris, you do VR workout, which is insane.

[00:47:07] Yeah, I look insane. My neighbors don't talk to me probably because of this. I put the headset on a lot of times. I'm just in shorts. And, you know, I have the fan on and the door opens so that I'm getting some cold air. But yeah, I do VR boxing on MetaQuest 3 in an app called Supernatural. And it's great. I mean, I'm not going to like be boxing a person anytime soon,

[00:47:34] but it's a really great exercise if you need something that will make you focus. Because when I go running and stuff, I end up writing in my head the whole time I'm running. And it's like just more work. What are you writing? Your suicide note? That's what I'm writing when I have to go for a run. Like whatever I'm working on, like whatever screenplay I'm working on, I'll just be working on that while I'm running. And then it just feels like work, but it sucks even more because I'm breathing heavy.

[00:48:01] And so the nice thing about VR boxing is because you're using your fists and twisting your body and stuff, it makes it easier for me to not think about anything else. So I actually get a half an hour away from my brain and like in my body. I did it. I tried it here. And I liked it a lot, actually, the VR boxing. It definitely gave me a workout. But I get so nervous closing my senses off to the world. It's like a... Oh, yeah.

[00:48:31] So I had a girlfriend, as you know this, maybe for a birthday a bunch of years ago, who like wanted to... It was a really fun birthday, actually. And we had a bunch of surprises planned. But she would do this thing where she's like, you know, blindfold you to this next thing. And I was... I didn't realize at that moment, like how much I was not fine with that. Like, because we're out in the world, I'm getting it. Like, it's not like, oh, I'm in my house. So I was like, yeah, I don't want to do that. I just don't want to do that. I hate being blindfolded.

[00:49:00] I hate having my senses turned off in any way. So when I do the VR boxing, I had a really fun time with it. And I thought it was really good. But I was also like, what was that noise? Is there fucking something in my house? Is there a person going to touch me with a stick? Like, I didn't... I don't like it. I make sure my doors are all locked because I will occasionally have... In the middle of exercising, I'll have the thought of like, what would it feel like if someone was just like... Like, came up behind me and plunged a knife like into my chest or something. And I would be like freaking out

[00:49:29] and like trying to like hit the side of the thing so that I could do like see-through mode so I could see my killer. But I probably wouldn't be successful because my hands would be all slippery with blood. And then I'm like, fuck, I'm working out. I can't... I can't do both. So yeah, because of shit like that, you know, it wasn't intrusive thoughts. It wasn't my reasoning. But I go to the gym. I just go to the gym. I go to the gym and I lift. I lift three days a week and I do like strictly cardio at least two days a week.

[00:49:58] So that's what I'm doing. And the square update is... I don't know why I'm not losing weight more. But that's the update. By the time we get to Monster Fest, people are going to be like, it's fucking Zac Efron here. And so you'll be like, no, dude, it's fucking Ed and he's here to live podcast with Astonishing Legends. It's going to be wild. I'm really excited for Monster Fest. I am too. I am too. I've never...

[00:50:26] I guess we could talk about our... Well, you've had very traditional... Like Ed grew up going to comic conventions, has a lot of convention experience. I didn't go to conventions until I moved to LA and I was working for a horror company called After Dark. They released the eight films to die for back in 2007. And it was like a weekend they'd released like eight movies into theaters. Anyway, it doesn't matter.

[00:50:55] But they had a Comic-Con booth. And so my first... And my only Comic-Con experiences are working the con. And then I went to a Fangoria convention and a bunch of other things. And it was a fun way to experience a convention, but very different from... Just attending. Yeah, for fun. So we'll see how... We'll see if I lose the... If I lose the love of cons after this because I'm going to be working. But no, it's going to be fun. Hopefully... I'm sure everyone's going to come up to talk about Astonishing Legends

[00:51:25] and it'd be cool if like one person was like, hey, I'm here for scared all the time. That'd be very exciting. Well, we'll have... Well, I don't want to make any promises, but I'm pretty sure we're going to have stickers. But we're going to have shit to give away. I don't think we're even charging. I don't think we're even charging. I think we're just giving stuff away. Just giving it away. If you figure out how to get to Ohio on your dime, you get a sticker. You get a button. Yeah. Yeah. All right. What's Gen Con? What is...

[00:51:55] Hold on. Sky Skip. What is Gen Con? Let us know what that is. And then maybe we'll... If it's not... If it's within the area, I'll come to any con. Sorry. So they'll probably let us know, Chris. You can continue with what you're saying. India says Gen Con is in Indiana. It's tabletop games. Oh, what? I just donated a poster this past Christmas

[00:52:21] to a really cool tabletop game. Just all games in general. Storm Brooklyn, New York. called The Last Place. The Best Place? Fuck, no. I feel bad. I think it's The Last Place on Earth. And they were huge, huge fans of The Last Man on Earth, a show that I had worked on for a long time. And I had a poster from season one that was signed by the whole cast. And when I saw these people on Instagram, they were like...

[00:52:50] They mentioned that they named the store after their love of the show, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I reached out to them being like, hey, I have this poster that I don't need. Do you want it? And they were like, fuck yeah, we definitely would want it. So I went there and Christmas, and they have a really cool store that really is genuinely like people go there and play board games every day and night. And they have like... It's packed, man. It's crazy. And they rent it out for private parties. And they just had a fourth year anniversary, I think.

[00:53:17] It's like, I can't believe there's a huge market for people who really, really like just adults playing board games. Yeah, there's a writers group. But I meet with once in a while. And they meet at a place called Geeky Tees and Games in the Valley. And they just expanded from a decent-sized shop into an old bank because they're so popular as a place for people to go play card games and board games. And I just... They showed me...

[00:53:47] They have all these themed rooms. So they have like a mausoleum and a Dracula's castle. If you're playing a horror game, they have rooms that are designed to look like spaceships. If you're playing a sci-fi game. Yeah, it's... They really pulled out all the stops. It's pretty cool. Yeah, I mean, I'm not like a big game... board game guy or whatever. I see this as... This is in August. August 1st through the 4th. So I think I'll have already driven back to California by that point. So I guess I'm going to miss it. I'm going to miss it in Indiana.

[00:54:17] Oh, not to throw you off, Ed, but Dante the Goaf. He's an hour late, he says. But hello, Dante. What's up, Dante? Welcome. You're working on scared all the time, time. Yeah. Welcome to the show. This is a very loose first episode. So we're reading some articles. We're giving updates. We're just kind of hanging out. So this is a... You know, you miss nothing is what I'm getting at. Well, except the theme, but we'll play that again at the end.

[00:54:47] Yeah, we'll play it again at the end. All right. So let's see. What do we got next here? What's next on the docket? Related to airline disasters, this is one of the scariest things I really could possibly imagine because it is basically the worst case scenario of as bad as a flight can get without literally crashing. You just experience what feels like probably hours of terror.

[00:55:17] This happened a few days ago, I think just like two days ago in the middle of the week. This article is from NBC News. The headline is Passengers Recount Turbulence Terror on Deadly Singapore Flight. Passengers on board a Singapore Airlines flight that hit, quote, severe turbulence have described their terror as the plane dropped thousands of feet before it leveled off. It made an emergency landing in Bangkok. I saw people from across the aisle just going completely horizontal,

[00:55:48] hitting the ceiling and landing back down in really awkward positions. Zafran, as Mir 28, told Reuters Wednesday. I mean, horizontal in the air is already an awkward position. Yeah. As Mir, a student added that people were, quote, getting massive gashes in the head as the Boeing 777 making its way from London to Singapore dropped in the sky. One passenger,

[00:56:17] one passenger widely identified in the British press as Jeff Kitchen. Okay. Okay. I also don't know why widely identified makes it sound like Reuters thinks maybe it's a different Jeff Kitchen or something. Well, it also just means it's like, yeah, why wouldn't they just say the person's name is Jeff Kitchens? Or like Dennis Kitchens, a famous comic distributor. But yeah, like why wouldn't you just say

[00:56:47] a man named Jeff Kitchens? Not like, did you say Kitchen? It is Kitchen, right? Jeff Kitchen. Yeah. Spelled Kitchen. Yeah. So I do wonder like, if it's like a guy who's like, for the last time, my name is Sean. Why does everyone keep calling me Jeff Kitchens? He's like, well, it's widely reported that your name is Jeff Kitchen. So we have to go with that. Well, okay. Okay. Hold on. So wait, this next bit explains a little bit. You son of a bitch. You set me up to fail. No, I didn't.

[00:57:16] Mr. Kitchen, 73, died during the incident. And so this is, I guess, why there's some confusion. Without naming the passenger, Kitapong Kitakachorn, the general manager of Bangkok's Svarnbhumi Airport, said Tuesday that the person had some medical problems that could have led to a fatal cardiac arrest. It was obvious the gentleman needed some help, passenger Andrew Davies, 54, told Reuters.

[00:57:46] So I guess maybe it's widely reported because the airline is being a little cagey with the details here. Sure. But God damn. So on Wednesday, Singapore, the hospital in Singapore was still treating 58 people and 20 of them were in the ICU. That's a lot of gashed heads. That's how bad this turbulence was. I'll be honest with you, though. It's like they landed the plane, though. Wasn't it? It wasn't like

[00:58:15] they're not burying them. No, for sure. But still, I mean, that's like it's just that's why it's one of the I mean, it's not the scariest thing because these people didn't die, but like, I'm sure they thought they were going to. Oh, there's got to be. It's like that Shane Gillis sketch or whatever where he's like, oh, the plane's going down. Like, call someone you hate or whatever. There's probably a bunch of people who were thinking to do that during that, you know, an event because, yeah, you have to. And when you're horizontal in the air, you're probably thinking

[00:58:45] this is it for me. You know? Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like most of the plane's journey was uneventful, but 10 hours in, the plane experienced a sharp drop of cruising out from cruising altitude of 37,000 feet to 31,000 feet in just five minutes. In one lurch, it dropped almost 700 feet. Apparently, rapidly developing explosive thunderstorms were recorded near the flight path

[00:59:14] by AccuWeather. Hmm. Oh, goodness. Photos and videos posted by passengers from inside the plane shortly after the incident showed overhead panels ripped off and food bottles and personal possessions strewn about the cabin. One video showed a blood stain smeared on the ceiling plastic. Here's Asmere again with a poetic description. Heads had literally pushed through and broken plastic panels and like there was just, there's blood and, and there's bits

[00:59:44] and pieces just broken everywhere. Hmm. That's, yeah. Yeah. That's, that's a tough cleanup. That's going to take a few minutes. Brutal. Brutal. Bits and pieces. Well, and you, and you don't want to drive with me across the country. You want to take one of those death machines? Those fucking planes? I know. This is going to be, this is going to be a lunatic thing for me to do, but I'm going to fly to Connecticut for Monster Fest for the fans, Ed. Yeah,

[01:00:14] dude, he's coming to my house first. He's coming to my place and then we're going to drive from Connecticut to Ohio and then back to Connecticut because you were not going back to LA from there. No, it was, it was, I probably will fall in love with Canton, Ohio. Tiny little cities are kind of my, my vibe, but you cannot get good flights around Canton, Ohio, or maybe they're all taking a flight. You sure can't. Yeah, it's crazy. Like the reason we're driving is like there was no,

[01:00:44] yeah, direct flights and I don't do fucking indirect flights. There's no way, but my ears, I'm not, I'm not risking multiple descents unless I'm going to like Australia or something. But yeah, we're going to drive and it's going to be awesome. It's going to be a lot of fun. I'm going to try and post shit from the road regardless, but when we're together, we'll definitely post stuff from the road. Yeah, for sure. For sure. We're not going to any Buc-ee's or anything though. I'm not doing that shit. That seems to be the thing to do right now is go to Buc-ee's

[01:01:14] in Texas. No, Buc-ee's are all over the place. I do not, I'm not a Buc-ee's fan. I'll wear a Buc-ee's hat or something, but that place isn't for me. You got to be a pretty big fan to wear the hat. There's a lot of things I like that I would not wear a hat of. I just like, I like wearing hats. That's true. You do have a pretty large selection of hats. For a person who has their hair into their 40s soon, I do have a big selection of hats. Yeah.

[01:01:44] Speaking of airline disasters. Oh, first we should say speaking of fear in general. We got a comment here saying that a Buc-ee's is just approved from North Carolina and people are freaking out. So we should do an episode about the fear of Buc-ee's coming to your town. It's a 40 acre lot. No, Buc-ee's is huge. I don't know. Are you familiar with these places? 40 acres sounds like a mall. No, that's a gas station. It's a stupidly big gas station. I went to one by

[01:02:14] Dollywood recently, with my dad. And it was okay. So we're getting a question here. What is Buc-ee's? Oh, my God. Cassie worked at a Buc-ee's. So Buc-ee's is a rest stop that is like the size of a Walmart. And you can get fresh sandwiches. Fresh. You can get sandwiches made. And it's just like the biggest truck stops you can find

[01:02:44] essentially. Yeah, Cassie nailed it. Yeah, Cassie nailed it and said it's pretty much a gas station mall is exactly what it is. I saw some pretty grisly sights there at like 8 a.m. The phrase gas station mall is giving cellar door a run for its money. Yeah. Gas station mall. Okay,

[01:03:13] so Scott's saying that the one coming to North Carolina is going to be 75,000 square feet. That is entirely too large for a Buc-ee's. That's a size for a theme park. Yeah. Yeah, this place is a theme park, but it's also just every, you know, roadside attraction I've ever been to. It's just like, hey, we're selling kind of unmarked beef jerky, fried, dried fruits, you know, but they have

[01:03:42] they have like fresh food stations. Again, fresh is strong description. Fresh is a marketing term in this case. Yeah, yeah, it's fresh with quotes, but it's just like, hey, what if we took all these places that you're used to going to like the alien jerky spot on the way into Vegas, you know, and just made it and just made it like so fucking big, like just so unreasonably big. That's what like, hey, do you want to lose your kids at a gas station? Like that come to

[01:04:12] Buc-ee's. What a what a Ed, you should be a copywriter. Oh, shit. So someone else has gone to the one by by Dollywood. Yeah, I don't know why that was the way we weren't even going to Dollywood, although we did end up going to so right by there there's a Buc-ee's and then there was like some like world's largest zip line that I think had closed down. It was like a post-apocalyptic scene and then the

[01:04:42] world's largest knife store my dad and I went to because we were like, I don't need any knives, but like world's largest. I'll check it out. And then we were like, well, we might as well go next 20 minutes and just like look at the Dollywood sign. So we did when we drive the last time I drove across the country I had my dad with me. Nice. Well, okay, wait, where were we? We were looking at comments. We were talking about Bucky's sky almost stopped at the knife store to India. I've been to Pigeon Forge. I actually

[01:05:12] when I was dating my wife before we got married, we went on a road trip because her family is from North Grove around down south and there was this very Christian bird rescue that we went to and it was, I forget what the place was called. It was like, I want to say it's like Parrots Unlimited, but that's not it at all. But it was just like, it was like a, they had Bible stations or little Jesus quotes everywhere, but they

[01:05:42] were also a bird rescue. I'd never seen anything like it. So I have, but I got to explore more Pigeon Forge. That whole area seems like just a wild scene. Yep. I'm in this, I'm in this situation right now where it's like, we're live and that's so weird to me because I'm like, because you know, normally, so just a little inside baseball for you guys. Also, inside baseball might be a term for not everyone, but a

[01:06:12] little behind the scenes, if you will, is I pee every episode we record. Like, there's not an episode we've done where I'm not like, I'll be back in a minute. I gotta pee. With guests, I did it with Let's Get Haunted. I did it with our new guests. I'm like, I just always have to pee. I have what my ex called a peanut bladder. Just a tiny wee bladder. We're going for like two hours, so, you know. Is this the same way you need to go pee? Yeah, I'm going to leave you guys with Chris, I think.

[01:06:42] Oh, okay. Yeah, so I'm going to let you guys hang out with Chris for like two minutes, just long enough to use the bathroom, wash my hands, and I will be back. And you guys, this is really what the experience of what the show was like to be made. This is huge. Be right back. And then you'll come back and I'll go get another beer. Okay, bye. Oh, hell yeah, dude. Leave us. But don't leave a lot

[01:07:15] I do need, I should just get a couple of different documents to read for when Ed leaves me alone. I'm going to check the comments here and see if you guys have any questions. Human break. I worked at one. Okay. Yes, Scott. I do think I'm going to catch Ed on Mike saying something pretty good one of these days. I don't know if it'll be as good as killed them all, of course,

[01:07:44] but the problem is then Ed has the audio, not me, so he'll just delete it. But Cassie dropped something in here about we should look into the story of Chief Osikola's head. It's pretty messed up. His physician kept his head in a jar at his home. So I assume the physician took the head after the chief died, or was this physician taking his head the cause of death.

[01:08:14] I don't know. But yeah, I have, so when Ed comes back, I think we're going to go for like another 20 minutes. I have a couple of things lined up. One of them, it kind of depends on how familiar Ed is with the subject. That's part of the fun of the show, is that he really doesn't know what we're going to talk about until I say it to him, which is

[01:08:44] always fun for me. Because sometimes there's stuff that I think is really funny and interesting, and he doesn't respond. And sometimes there's stuff that I'm almost ready to gloss over, and then Ed's got something to say about it. So we'll see what it, which of the two Eds we get on this next one. But this has been fun so far. Is the topic for the live show? India, it's not officially a surprise,

[01:09:14] or at least I don't know. Scott can probably answer that better. I don't think it's a surprise. I think we're still Scott, I don't know if they're still working on it, but I don't think it's officially a surprise. What's happening? What did I miss? India was asking if the topic for the live show at Monster Fest is a surprise, and I was trying to explain that I don't think so, but Scott just said it's a surprise through lack of organization. That's true. That's true. I think, I mean, most things are a surprise

[01:09:43] for me on all these shows, so it's fine. I'll roll with the punches. I was just explaining that, that you really don't know anything we're going to talk about. Like this next subject, subject, because we've vamped long enough. Like this next subject, the other thing I wanted to talk about, Ed, and you probably have some knowledge of this, is what do we feel about the Boeing whistleblowers dropping dead? I think it's an interesting time in history.

[01:10:14] Not that it's happening, but that like, we kind of came up a little bit when we talked about the submarine implosion on the pod, where it was like, my take on that was like, I had never seen prior to that event, just a unanimous who gives a shit from the world. And where this one is something where I feel like we should give a shit, but it got kind of that same public response of

[01:10:43] like, nope, moving on, doing, you know, I guess that guy definitely died from a company, killed him probably, but yeah, I mean, then there's a second one. Yeah, well, that's, I've been loosely following these. I haven't been following like beat for beat. I told you the story of the guy I drank with at the bar who works for Boeing, right? Who like, works on the factory floor for one of the Boeing plants. I don't know if you did. Yeah, it was so good. Yeah, so I was talking to this guy whose name

[01:11:13] and description I won't give away because he's a real person. Oh shit. See you later, Tess. Tess has to hop off. Good evening. Bye, Tess. Thank you, Tess. Tess. Tess. and he was like talking about how, and this was after the first whistleblower death before the second one. And he was joking, but saying that they, like, this was the joke on the factory floor is like when they're clocking in, like punching in at the time, you know what I'm talking about?

[01:11:43] They would like joke to each other, like just they would do this thing where if you're listening, you won't see this, but if you're watching, you can see me do it where they're just like look around to everyone and be like, we love it here. Just, just want everyone to know we love it here. We love working here. And then they would like clock in and then punch out or whatever, but it would just be that everyone would laugh. Like that was the joke. That was the vibe like a week or two later on the Boeing factory floor. So the people working there were

[01:12:13] like, this is, this seems a little little Epstein didn't kill himself, right? It's, it seems like something almost designed to drive you crazy because the first guy, I mean, also, did we need to recap this for anybody? Is it like to people, is everyone aware of what we're talking about? So in the past couple weeks, uh, two whistleblowers who blew the whistle on Boeing for all the near plane crashes that have been happening. And the, a lot of these guys have been

[01:12:43] whistleblowers for years saying, you know, they're cutting corners, the, these parts aren't well manufactured, whatever. And now it's all kind of come to a head because we've had a year of near disasters from, from Boeing planes. But two of these guys within a few weeks of each other died. One of them from a gunshot to the head in his car and the other from, uh, a fast spreading bacterial infection. Yeah. Um, and that's, that's a little swamp gas of a fucking explanation.

[01:13:13] Well, yeah, from a, from a, from a 30,000 foot view, it's like, okay, two people who have cost one of the biggest companies in the world billions upon billions of dollars in, in stock, uh, price over the past couple of months to years, just randomly at the same time at relatively young ages, end up dead. Both whilst doing their depositions in a court case regarding this. Yeah,

[01:13:43] but then it is like, you know, the, they released the little, like the notebook that was found next to the guy who shot himself and it does look like a crazy person's notebook. Um, although maybe you could also hire someone to fake a crazy person's notebook because it's so obviously a crazy person's notebook that it's exactly the kind of notebook you would have made if you were like, look, I need to plant a suicide note next to somebody. And never forget that the art department on seven,

[01:14:13] the movie seven did fill all those composition notebooks with craziness. And there was like a hundred composition notebooks there. So there's that. And then the other guy died from, um, a fast spreading infection that I don't know if you can see the screen. community. It's not that shocking, but then also, uh, recognizes these are Reddit nurses, people on the internet. So,

[01:14:43] uh, it's weird that their account was, uh, not Boeing 24 at Reddit. Well, it, it like, yeah. Okay. So here, uh, the Seattle times first reported Dean's death. Dean's aunt told the publication. Her nephew went to the hospital for breathing issues a few weeks ago, developed pneumonia and then suffered a serious bacterial infection. So it's one of those things that's like, that does sound pretty. He was in there for a few weeks. What did they do? Like if the, if Boeing,

[01:15:13] if Boeing took this guy out, they like what made him go outside when it's cold at night without a jacket on. Let's say the, uh, person who got sick genuinely got sick, but I feel like any other time in American history, there would be a freak out at Boeing where it's like coming off the other one, this is going to look so bad for us. Like even though we didn't kill this guy, it's going to look like we fucking killed this guy. But I feel like that's not even

[01:15:43] happening. Like those conversations aren't even happening. I think they're just like, it's all that like I can shoot a guy on Fifth Avenue and get away with it. It's all just a new way of like this new worldview. People just don't give a shit anymore and it's really bumming me out. Well, it's not only do people not give a shit. I think we've talked, if we haven't talked about this on the show yet, I'm sure we will eventually. But we really do live in kind of different media worlds. Like even people who broadly agree

[01:16:12] politically, you know, like your feeds, your news feed, your Twitter feed, everything is being made for you. So, you know, the, the, the, you can kind of believe whatever you want. I mean, I, I, I remember I was talking to my writing partner at some point about a movie that we have that ends with like, ah, yes, we got the incriminating footage and we aired it on the news and now everything's going to be okay. But it's like,

[01:16:43] that would never even work anymore. Anything you aired on the news, half the country would just be like, yeah, it's not fake or that's not real. Yeah. Yeah. And here's the thing. I had to, I had to make a YouTube account for us to do this tonight. Like I had to basically make sure that scared all time had access to, or was approved to do live show or whatever. And the thing I find so interesting, I'm glad it's there, I guess, but they ask you now when you're posting a video, did you use AI

[01:17:12] to manipulate or fake or trick any aspect of this? And it's great that they're asking. I don't have to fucking hit yes, I guess. I mean, there's nobody still, it's like my favorite Simpson sign. It's like, do not enter or do I'm a sign, not a cop. So it's like, I guess I could just hit no, but it's, it's good that they're asking, but it's scary that they feel that they have to. Right. Because especially in an election year, honestly. Yeah,

[01:17:42] especially in election year. Like it's so fucking crazy. Like I, and it also makes our job harder for anything we want to discuss about galuga goose. Like if you want to talk about cryptids and what have you, now we have to add that like, and it's always been the case. It's always been like, oh, they used a computer to make it look like a fucking Sasquatch is zipping around. But now you can make it a very convincing stuff in a way that you couldn't 10 years ago, 12 years ago. Yeah. Well, you can also

[01:18:12] get it whether you're trying to seed it to people on purpose or not. You know, like there's there's a lot of, I'm in a lot of UFO and alien subreddits and like there's a lot of videos that circulate that I don't even think were made with the intent to deceive necessarily, but they circle and circle and circle within those communities companies because it's being fed back to them by all their algorithms. So like you keep seeing the same videos over and over again, you keep being

[01:18:42] kind of fed the same. What do you think of this over and over again? And it's easy to just kind of get into these echo chambers where everyone is like, oh yeah, that's that's real. Well, I mean, I just ran into this the other day, like I didn't run into it in the sense that I was actively watching the Joe Rogan experience, but I was watching a person comment on the number of fake Joe Rogan experience clips that like look and feel like Joe Rogan experience clips like from his podcast. But it's just

[01:19:11] AI voice, an AI voice to kind of harken back to the opening we did in this episode. It is just like an AI voice of Joe Rogan and it sounded super convincing to me. And so that's like that's going to be so tough. Yeah, the more people like that or any broadcaster who has, you know, I mean, here's hundreds and hundreds of thousands of hours of their voice exists. Yeah, you can say like George Nori, somebody could fake George Nori's voice and, you know, like put it

[01:19:41] out into the and I mean, George, I'm sure would immediately be like that's not me, but you know, like you could easily spread to anyone who's broadcast for that long. You've got they're done. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to I don't want to I don't even know how we got on this subject, but it is we'll get off of it, but we'll definitely be doing for anyone who's interested. A couple AI episodes. We had a really good conversation, Chris and I on a drive to get a whiteboard that he got

[01:20:11] quagmired into a quagmire with me. It took longer than we wanted to go pick it up with a pickup truck. But the we talked a lot about like AI and not even just in the way you'd think like Skynet type of shit. We talked about like commerce and marketing and just like a bunch of really weird big ideas that will I think we'll definitely do stuff if not this season season four for sure. This season's coming along really great by the way. I know I'm going on a

[01:20:41] tangent. This is our first live so we don't know what the fuck we're doing. We've got about eight minutes left. So yeah, let's talk about the next season. Did you want to? Is there a hard out? I don't know. No, well, I mean, we were going to do about an hour and a half. I've got dinner at eight. So where do you who do you know that eats who that eats? Most people. Yeah, most. Oh, season three. Yeah, I don't know. I don't

[01:21:11] know what tonight's plan was. We've derailed it and I'm fine with it. Hopefully everyone's having an okay time hanging out. Yeah, season three is really coming along great. I'm really I mean, I thought season two was a lot better than season one and I think season three is shaping up to be better than season two and we have some guests that we haven't we can't announce yet that are really rad. Yeah, we've got cool guests. We are opening with a couple of like highly yeah,

[01:21:41] and I would say the research for all of them has turned up at least you know a handful of things that are things I didn't know about these topics. So there's there's some really interesting stuff. There's some stuff that will keep you up at night and yeah, I guess you got to figure out what episode are we at now? Four or five. We got to figure out the next one. That's it. That sounds like a Chris problem. It is a Chris problem.

[01:22:11] But sometimes I know you like input into what the I mean let's look at Ed's big inputs. Homunculus. That was the Ed got to because it put something on the board and ended up being weird and gross and short. I liked homunculus. That made me laugh for sure. Well, as the longer we do this, the more homunculus style fears we're going to touch on because you know, I know something that we talked about at the beginning of this is you know, there's lots

[01:22:41] of fears but also we got to have some fun with you know, not every fear is going to be able to be deadly or something because there's only so many of those that you can really talk about. So the topics will continue to they'll always have a connection to things that we're afraid of. But totally I at least want to lean to the most interesting topics we can, you know, even if they're not you know, on front of mind fears. Sure.

[01:23:10] So we'll see. We have someone said they that they started Let's Get Haunted because of our collab. Oh, hopefully you're enjoying it. I'm I've been I was listening to the Epstein stuff at the gym today. They're they're three part Epstein series which I've been enjoying. I don't know. I don't I don't want to I don't like to listen to my I have to listen to my voice all day editing our show. So I haven't I haven't gotten to the end of our collab on their on their show,

[01:23:40] but it is a I had a really fun time with them both times like both times were just a blast hanging out with with both of them. Yeah, it's nice to find people who are like share the same vibe as we do. And we got a very fun gift from them. We got some very fun really stupid shirts that I love. of we did of not skinny Bob skinny Bob skinny. They sent us some skinny Bob shirts that say never skip neck day, which is very fun.

[01:24:10] Yeah. And in return, we sent them Bermuda Triangle shirts from Bruce's website. Bruce Burse Guron Guron Gerson. I think it's something like that. Yeah. Bruce Gerson. Yeah. I want to say Gerson. He he sells some pretty cool t-shirts. So we I had to talk to his wife to get him and and she just didn't understand. I think what

[01:24:40] I was asking and then she was like, oh, do you have because I was like, oh, I need them to be like small. And she's like, oh, do you have daughters? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yes, I do. And then I was like, she's like, what are their ages? And I was like, oh, 16 and 17 at something like that. And then I realized like as said, as I was saying I'm like, that is not enough time that enough time to have. So I was so I'm said like I was like, oh, Irish twins. And then she said that she has a couple of those in her family and it worked out. But it was

[01:25:10] just like this real. I don't I felt like I was like I had to like put on a role. I have to play a character. I didn't want to I also want to be like, hey, we make fun of your your things you're known for. Well, I mean, that makes sense, but it would have been normal until you were questioning the ages of your fake daughters and I'm sure they are like picking up on it. No, of course they weren't. Dude, I'm professionally I professionally talk. It was fine. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're definitely not on a list

[01:25:40] anywhere. So so this was this has been scared all time. Is there anything we did? Is there anything we didn't hit that you that you were excited to talk about and but you're so hungry that it's difficult to get it out? I've got I've got one more here. We'll we'll we'll go over because I pulled it and we've got we've got time. This is not look at this look at this fucking person who wants to add this to the bingo card, I guess. This is not recent.

[01:26:09] Did you see it? Ed seems to always put himself into awkward situations. They wrote this is add that to the scared all time bingo card. OK. What was I going to say? Oh, yeah. This last article is something that I was really excited to find because as you all know, I'm from Pennsylvania. I talk about Pennsylvania a lot. I love central Pennsylvania and I love monsters. I love

[01:26:39] cryptids and I did not know this. I found an article called Monster of the Susquehanna published May 6, 2019. And it's a guy, Lou Bernard, wrote this article about a weird, barely seen monster living in the Susquehanna River, which is the river that goes past Harrisburg and Three Mile Island near where I grew up. It was known as the Kettle Creek Monster, the West Branch Dugong, or as I prefer, the Susquehanna Seal.

[01:27:09] Most of the information comes from an article in the Daily Democrat from February 27, 1897. The article described the travels of a creature that existed back in the days before the valley was settled. It was said to have swum into the Susquehanna River during a time of high waters, possibly an unrecorded flood. Finding prey plentiful, it continued to swim upstream until it got stuck along the Susquehanna, now limited to the area between present day Lockhaven and Kettle Creek. The article didn't contain much of a physical description. It was said

[01:27:38] to be a marine animal or sea monster, but very little else was described. Mostly it just stayed underwater unseen, which feels like a pretty underwhelming river monster. Yeah, that's very similar to Jurassic Park where you'd think this park would actually have some dinosaurs everywhere they went, nothing was coming out. Yeah, it's very easy to believe that your river is filled with monsters when none of them ever come above the surface. Yeah, yeah. No, trust me, they're down there. Size is the

[01:28:08] only actual physical description in the article which mentioned that it was big, the bulk of an ox or a hippopotamus. Some people speculated on the species of this creature. Some thought it was a cuttlefish or sea lion, perhaps some sort of shark or whale. Some speculated it was a dinosaur left over from prehistoric times, a labyrinthodon, ichthyosaurus, or hadrosaur were possible ideas pitched for this. I don't know why you'd pitch a hadrosaur. That was like the duck-billed

[01:28:38] dinosaurs or hadrosaurs. They don't look anything like, I mean, they were in and around the water. I mean, that person probably got caught off guard like that woman asking me how old my kids were. Yeah. This article mentions that it was, quote, terrible, and further commented that it being the Susquehanna seal or the West Branch Dugong, it was like something out of a Jules Verne story, the article said. He was not the form or image of anything else on the earth, speculating that it may have not actually

[01:29:07] been trapped in the river but swing back and forth to the ocean through a series of underground caverns. It was definitely audible, however, making noise at night. People reported hearing it howl and thrash in the dark. The Daily Democrat said those who have crossed the animal's path heard its terrible roar, his disturbing the waters and lashing them into a foam. So, and then the Susquehanna seal sightings dropped off in the later part of the 1800s. Well, so did a lot of things.

[01:29:37] like, what? I don't know what that's supposed to mean. The 1800s being a cowboy fucking true, true, uh, riding a horse to go everywhere. Yeah. the late 1800s was a, uh, a couple decades of change in a big, bad way. Yeah. Um, speaking of change in I may or may not have gotten the subtitles to burn in.

[01:30:08] So, oh, hell yeah. So everyone is everyone who was here for the beginning, even knowing it will be the same credits, uh, you will get a little something new. You'll have subtitles on them and it took me way too long to get the subtitles. So I'll be where I want them to be. So anyway, I'm not saying we're done. We have a few more minutes, but I just wanted to, in case you were trying to get me off earlier, I'm like, no, wait, we have, we have a new video for people. No, well, we do everyone stick around.

[01:30:38] Uh, we're going to roll, we'll roll the closing credit video so you can see Ed's, uh, subtitle work. I'm sure it's masterful. Um, um, but yeah, this has been great. Um, I feel like this is a format, I guess we can have a lot of fun with, um, you know, we'll get more used to it. We'll figure out the, any audio kinks. Um, and I love this like chat interaction thing. I guess I've seen other people do stuff like that before,

[01:31:08] but I've never thought about like interacting with people that way, but it's fun. Well, it's also tough for you because you have to read and I can just sit here and keep clicking back and forth, but we have to get you a monitor and a second monitor. So, didn't you get a new computer and it's like, is it just one big monitor? No, it's the same monitor, but new computer. Hell yeah. Um, let me quit out of here. Uh, this is great. This is a lot of fun. I didn't know what this was going to be.

[01:31:38] I, I honestly at the end of it, I still don't know what it is, but it's fun to talk to people and hang out and let us know for sure. If not, when we're out of here, like just shoot us a message on Facebook or any of our socials and stuff or shoot us an email and let us know what you'd like to get out of these or you know what I mean? Like Chris, you know what I'm saying? Like, do people want like a fake people want like a live version of our normal episodes? Do people want just hangout sessions?

[01:32:08] Yeah. I mean, we're not going to like put on a musical or anything, but we'd have to, we'd have to rely more on a, on, on AI that I despise to put on the musical. That's true. Although I did write the song. I wrote the song. I just didn't make the music. Didn't write the music. All right. So I think it's almost uploaded. Yeah, it is uploaded. So, okay. So with that, let's play us out, Ed. All right, everybody. Thanks so much for coming out. It was a lot of fun.

[01:32:38] It was great to get in some, some chats and some names we've seen before. And we'll play you out to a song that don't let it, don't let trick you. The song very much ends like the show is starting. There will not be additional so. When that ends, the stream ends, you've all been here. You can all tell the world that you were here for the very first train wreck. See you soon. Thanks so much for coming on. Good evening. Good evening.

[01:33:09] Hey, look, it's Chris and Ed like you've never seen them. Before now, you may have never seen them. Can you believe you're actually seeing them? What time is it? It's time to start the show. It's actually happening.

[01:33:45] To be afraid of is it as good as the world produced week we show you've come to know but hey, let's find out together time to start the show. So there was, Chris, the end of an era. I mean, the beginning of an era. The beginning of an era. The beginning

[01:34:14] of another era, a new baby-fied era of scared all the time. But yeah, I hope you guys enjoyed it. Yeah, it's fun slash cringy slash insane to re-listen to it. And amazingly, I actually took some air out of it. So, you know, I can't help myself. Yeah, if you enjoyed it, again, sign up. We do these every month. We'd love to see some more of you in a week at February's live show. Yeah, it's a blast. People seem to enjoy it. We do talk to everybody and have a good time. Yeah,

[01:34:44] so hope you liked it. Until then, until we see you, until we hear from you, as always, I'm Chris Killari. And I'm Ed Vecola. The show is Scared All the Time, and we will see you next time. See you in March. Scared All the Time is co-produced by Chris Killari and Ed Vecola. Written by Chris Killari. Edited by Ed Vecola. Additional Support and Keeper of Sanity is Tess Feifel. Our theme song is the track Scared by Perpetual Stew. And Mr. Disclaimer is And just a reminder, you can now support the podcast on

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